Anarchism and football

Tree "Obama! Obama! Obama!"
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Submitted by Tree on 21 August, 2008 - 05:58.

I saw some documentary ages ago on Communism and football which I found really interesting. But, I was wondering if anyone knows of football teams loosely affiliated with an Anarchist past?

I tried doing a search for this but didn't have any luck, cheers.

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Django
Posts: 374 Joined: 18-01-08 Location: Manchester
21 August, 2008 - 08:15

There is a pamphlet you can get about this - an anarchist football manual by the aap collective.

weeler "temp banned"
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21 August, 2008 - 09:43

anarchists hate football coz it has rules and captains and opposition and they are whiners

Tree "Obama! Obama! Obama!"
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21 August, 2008 - 10:09

Cheers Django, never heard of the aap before.

catch "unpractical[sic] and blinkered"
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21 August, 2008 - 12:37
Weeler wrote:
anarchists hate football coz it has rules and captains and opposition and they are whiners

Sport represents a tyranny over human effort by machines, the watch and arbitrary rules.

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
Posts: 10745 Joined: 09-12-04 Location: Belfast
21 August, 2008 - 12:51

who gives a fuck whether anarchists like football or there's anarchist teams

support a big fuckin massive really successful team which is sweet

if anyone mentions St Pauli i will fight them

notch8 "Annihilate This Week"
Posts: 436 Joined: 23-03-08 Location: Belfast
21 August, 2008 - 13:23
Tree wrote:
I was wondering if anyone knows of football teams loosely affiliated with an Anarchist past?

P.E.C. Lads Friday Night F.C. has anarchist links. But since youve posted on another thread that you hate gyms you'll never know.

weeler "temp banned"
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21 August, 2008 - 13:30

Dublin team bohs were formed from spanish civil war exhiles - http://farm1.static.flickr.com/103/376860243_579fc6b038.jpg?v=0

Tree "Obama! Obama! Obama!"
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21 August, 2008 - 14:29
notch8 wrote:
Tree wrote:
I was wondering if anyone knows of football teams loosely affiliated with an Anarchist past?

P.E.C. Lads Friday Night F.C. has anarchist links. But since youve posted on another thread that you hate gyms you'll never know.

I hear you guys don't actually play football you just go straight for the showers.

Refused "wee fuck'n' strings"
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21 August, 2008 - 14:56

Nah, they do play football. But that doesn't mean there isn't some friendly shower fun afterwards.

There isn't though. wink

Tree "Obama! Obama! Obama!"
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21 August, 2008 - 14:56
catch wrote:
Sport represents a tyranny over human effort by machines, the watch and arbitrary rules.

I'm glad the SWP sorted that out for me. I now see that I was wrong in believing the revolution would come through sport.

Quote:
Human emancipation will not involve 22 men playing football watched by 50,000 spectators and millions more on television. Nor will it involve men and women crashing up and down a swimming pool competing against each other and the clock.

Refused "wee fuck'n' strings"
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21 August, 2008 - 14:57

If there isn't competitive sport, it's not my revolution.

Tree "Obama! Obama! Obama!"
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21 August, 2008 - 15:00

Here, here

weeler "temp banned"
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21 August, 2008 - 15:03
Refused wrote:
If there isn't competitive sport, it's not my revolution.

Its not your revolution anyway.

ftony "crews are for boats"
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21 August, 2008 - 15:19

didn't Class War make a half-arsed anti-fascist fanclub called FC United a while back?

Refused "wee fuck'n' strings"
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21 August, 2008 - 15:34
Weeler wrote:
Refused wrote:
If there isn't competitive sport, it's not my revolution.

Its not your revolution anyway.

lol gulag

sad

weeler "temp banned"
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21 August, 2008 - 15:38
ftony wrote:
didn't Class War make a half-arsed anti-fascist fanclub called FC United a while back?

You are teh confused - http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/

yaya2020
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22 August, 2008 - 02:47

"Sport is portrayed as something as old as the hills. Yet it is a product of capitalism." - catch's link to (cough, bureaucrat) (ahem) socialist worker
ha ha ha jai alai

yaya2020
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22 August, 2008 - 02:49

fc-utd. walking arguments for worker control.

ftony "crews are for boats"
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22 August, 2008 - 09:21
Weeler wrote:
ftony wrote:
didn't Class War make a half-arsed anti-fascist fanclub called FC United a while back?

You are teh confused - http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/

maybe i got the name wrong then. sure it existed tho... was an attempt to break into that ol' white male working class culture that CW love so much AFAIK

Joseph K. "the thinking man's idiot"
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22 August, 2008 - 09:41

iirc they told the press that a CW hooligan firm was going to bash fash at Euro 96 (never materialised afaik), not sure what else they've done in relation to football

weeler "temp banned"
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22 August, 2008 - 09:54
yaya2020 wrote:
"Sport is portrayed as something as old as the hills. Yet it is a product of capitalism." - catch's link to (cough, bureaucrat) (ahem) socialist worker
ha ha ha jai alai

This drawing is proof?

JH
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22 August, 2008 - 10:05
Tree wrote:
I saw some documentary ages ago on Communism and football which I found really interesting. But, I was wondering if anyone knows of football teams loosely affiliated with an Anarchist past?

I tried doing a search for this but didn't have any luck, cheers.

I read somewhere that there are football teams in Argentina that started off with some kind of anarchist affiliation. I'm not sure where you'd find out more about this though.

Boulcolonialboy "the meanest"
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22 August, 2008 - 15:16

Brand magazine from Sweden had its own football team

revol68 ""Identity is a dream pathetic in its absurdity. You dream of being yourself when you've nothing better to do""
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22 August, 2008 - 20:06
Joseph K. wrote:
iirc they told the press that a CW hooligan firm was going to bash fash at Euro 96 (never materialised afaik), not sure what else they've done in relation to football

They being that looney fuckwit gangster/attica.

JH
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22 August, 2008 - 21:17

On alasbarricadas there's a thread about the Buenos Aires team Club Atlético Colegiales, which started life in 1908 as the Club Atlético Libertarios Unidos, playing in a red and black strip. The name was changed by government decree in 1919. Similarly the Asociación Atlética Argentinos Juniors were originally called the Mártires de Chicago. Newell's Old Boys and Chacarita Juniors were also founded by anarchists with Newell's Old Boys still playing in a half red, half black shirt.

magnifico "rehabilitating"
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22 August, 2008 - 21:43

Luton Town are fighting the power this season

jef costello "Beautiful, just like Nuremburg"
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23 August, 2008 - 10:47

My favourite Italian team apparently used to be leftwing until the pope bought the club and made them be fenians sad

Boulcolonialboy "the meanest"
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23 August, 2008 - 13:06

The Pope made Irish warriors out of left wing Italians??? confused

jef costello "Beautiful, just like Nuremburg"
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23 August, 2008 - 13:30

It's hard to distinguish one popish plot from another sad

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
Posts: 10745 Joined: 09-12-04 Location: Belfast
23 August, 2008 - 13:32

"NO POPES NO MASTERS!"
Orangise!

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