Internationalists issue declaration against war in Ukraine

Russian troops in Ukraine

Internationalists and anarchists from Russia and elsewhere have issued a declaration condemning both the Russian and Ukrainian governments, arguing that the working class in both countries should reject nationalism and fight for their own interests.

Here is the declaration in its entirety:

Declaration of Internationalists against the war in Ukraine

War on war! Not a single drop a blood for the "nation”!

The power struggle between oligarchic clans in Ukraine threatens to escalate into an international armed conflict. Russian capitalism intends to use redistribution of Ukrainian state power in order to implement their long-standing imperial and expansionist aspirations in the Crimea and eastern Ukraine where it has strong economic, financial and political interests.

On the background of the next round of the impending economic crisis in Russia, the regime is trying to stoking Russian nationalism to divert attention from the growing workers' socio-economic problems: poverty wages and pensions, dismantling of available health care, education and other social services. In the thunder of the nationalist and militant rhetoric it is easier to complete the formation of a corporate, authoritarian state based on reactionary conservative values and repressive policies.

In Ukraine, the acute economic and political crisis has led to increased confrontation between "old" and "new" oligarchic clans, and the first used including ultra-rightist and ultra-nationalist formations for making a state coup in Kiev. The political elite of Crimea and eastern Ukraine does not intend to share their power and property with the next in turn Kiev rulers and trying to rely on help from the Russian government. Both sides resorted to rampant nationalist hysteria: respectively, Ukrainian and Russian. There are armed clashes, bloodshed. The Western powers have their own interests and aspirations, and their intervention in the conflict could lead to World War III.

Warring cliques of bosses force, as usual, force to fight for their interests us, ordinary people: wage workers, unemployed, students, pensioners... Making us drunkards of nationalist drug, they set us against each other, causing us forget about our real needs and interests: we don`t and can`t care about their "nations" where we are now concerned more vital and pressing problems – how to make ends meet in the system which they found to enslave and oppress us.

We will not succumb to nationalist intoxication. To hell with their state and “nations”, their flags and offices! This is not our war, and we should not go on it, paying with our blood their palaces, bank accounts and the pleasure to sit in soft chairs of authorities. And if the bosses in Moscow, Kiev, Lviv, Kharkiv, Donetsk and Simferopol start this war, our duty is to resist it by all available means!

No war between "nations"-no peace between classes!

KRAS, Russian section of the International Workers Association
Internationalists of Ukraine, Russia, Moldova, Israel, Lithuania
Anarchist Federation of Moldova
Fraction of the Revolutionary Socialists (Ukraine)

Declaration was supported by:

Workers Solidarity Alliance (North America)
An Internationalist from USA
Anarcho-Syndicalist Initiative of Romania
Libertarians of Barcelona
Left Communists and Internacionalists from Ecuador, Peru, Dominican Republic, Mexico, Uruguay and Venezuela
Workers-Communist Iniciative (France)
Leicester group of Anarchist Federation (Britain)
An Internationalist from Ireland
French-speaking Anarchist Federation (FAF)
International of Anarchist Federations (IFA)
Union workers and precarious of Clermont-Ferrand CNT-AIT (France)
"World Revolution" (Croatia)
A Libertarian Socialist (Egypt)
libcom.org group
World in Common network

The statement is open for signature

From http://www.aitrus.info/node/3608
Individuals or organisations wanting to cosign the statement should send their name/organisation name to KRAS by e-mail at comanar30@gmail.com

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Steven.
Mar 2 2014 15:39

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Alf
Mar 2 2014 18:07

Solid statement of internationalist principles

alan on tyneside
Mar 2 2014 19:09
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The statement is open for signature

I sign.

Fucking spot on statement if I may say so.

mikail firtinaci
Mar 2 2014 21:24

We have translated this statement to Turkish.Where can we send the Turkish version? Should we simply upload it on Libcom?

Steven.
Mar 2 2014 21:44
mikail firtinaci wrote:
We have translated this statement to Turkish.Where can we send the Turkish version? Should we simply upload it on Libcom?

hey, that's great. Yes please just upload it to the library, leave the tags blank but choose Turkish in the "foreign-language" field

Steven.
Mar 2 2014 21:50

Wow, we're already getting lefty cretins on the libcom Facebook page arguing that we need to support Russia against "fascist" Ukraine. That didn't take long!

teh
Mar 2 2014 23:17
Steven. wrote:
Wow, we're already getting lefty cretins on the libcom Facebook page arguing that we need to support Russia against "fascist" Ukraine. That didn't take long!

To be fair the "People & Nature" piece is pretty shit, not least in reducing Russian capitalism to "Putin" (god is that tiresome). And reads like a democracy piece from an NGO cabal. This "Internationalists declaration" posted above got twice as many up votes and no negative feedback.

Marx-Trek
Mar 3 2014 04:24

great statement, I just wonder what will actually happen and in the streets this sentiment seems to be nearly missing...

confusionboats
Mar 3 2014 05:35

you guys have a facebook?
sometimes I want to share articles on there but I always feel like betrays some kind of trust
(I share some of the source material, I feel like the various orgs wouldn't have websites if they didn't want recognition)

also how does one go about signing this?
I want to sign it

cresspot
Mar 3 2014 07:19

This would make a fantastic commercial

Orkideh84
Mar 3 2014 09:26

Where do I sign? Overall, great statement!

Foristaruso
Mar 3 2014 10:24

Comrades, if you want to sign this declaration, you can send info about it to mail address of KRAS-IWA (comanar30@gmail.com) with the mention of your country and your group (if the signature is approved by organization or group). Thank you

Entdinglichung
Mar 3 2014 11:14

statement by the Trotskyist RSD: http://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article3296 ... not too bad but speaking more about 'people' than about 'classes'

Quote:
No war with Ukraine!

A statement from the Russian Socialist Movement

War has begun. With the aim of protecting and increasing the assets of the oligarchs in Russia and in Yanukovich’s coterie, Russia’s leadership has undertaken an invasion of Ukraine. This aggression threatens catastrophic consequences for the Ukrainian and Russian peoples — most especially for the population of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and Ukraine’s southeastern industrial regions.

For Ukraine, this will also mean an escalation of ethnic conflicts; for Russia, a consolidation of dictatorial power, repression, and chauvinist hysteria, with which the ruling elite will be able to neutralize mass anger against a backdrop of deepening economic crisis. We share the concern of residents of the southeast over the nationalistic tendencies of the new authorities in Kyiv.

It is, however, our firm conviction that freedom will be won not by Putin’s tanks, but by self-organization and the people’s own struggle for their civil, political, and socio-economic rights.

It goes without saying that the peoples of Ukraine have a right of self-determination, of full autonomy and independence. But what we are seeing today has nothing to do with the democratic will of the masses. It is a brazen and cynical act of Russian imperialism, aimed at annexing foreign territory and converting Ukraine into part of Russia’s protectorate.

Today, the struggle for freedom in Russia is a struggle against the foreign policy adventurism of the current regime, which seeks collusion in forestalling its own end. The RSD calls on all sincere left and democratic forces to organize anti-war protests. Our demands:

NO RUSSIAN-UKRAINIAN WAR! NO PROVOCATIONS TO BLOODSHED IN UKRAINE!

NO PITTING AGAINST ONE ANOTHER OF THE PEOPLES OF UKRAINE AND RUSSIA!

NO INTERVENTION BY THE ARMIES OF RUSSIA OR ANY OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE AFFAIRS OF CRIMEA!

FREEDOM FROM DICTATORIAL ACTS AND PEACEABLE SELF-DETERMINATION FOR THE PENINSULA’S RESIDENTS!

YES TO THE UKRAINIAN WORKERS’ STRUGGLE AGAINST OLIGARCHS AND CORRUPT OFFICIALS! NO TO ETHNIC CONFLICTS!

baboon
Mar 3 2014 12:41

A sober, clear internationalist position by KRASthat has my suppor against the confusions and bourgeois politics of the RSD above with its "peoples", "self-determination" and so on, typical of leftism. The KRAS position also stands out against the anarchist AWU and its support for "common citizens" and "democratic forces". This is a vital proletarian voice amid these growing inter-imperialist tensions and capitalist decomposition.

Caiman del Barrio
Mar 3 2014 13:02

People = bourgeois. You heard it here folks.

klas batalo
Mar 3 2014 16:36

Dear comrades,

The WSA as a matter of internationalist principle signs on to your statement against war between Russia and Ukraine.

For a world without war and borders!
WSA

Lurch
Mar 3 2014 16:50

Yes. Good initial statement from KRAS.

One 'problem' with the statement on this thread said to be from the "Trotskyist RSD" (I put it in quotation marks because I don't know this organisation, or if it is indeed 'Trotskyist') can be summed up in the following passage:

"It goes without saying that the peoples of Ukraine have a right of self-determination, of full autonomy and independence."

Without opening up an enormous, historical debate, this is a central issue in the Ukraine, today, and elsewhere. In this sense, in the sense of events on the ground in Ukraine, Russia, Crimea and 'the West', the KRAS statement expresses a class viewpoint. An internationalist, working class viewpoint, as it says on the tin. The RSD statement, to say the least, leaves the door open to all kinds of nationalist viewpoints. Caiman de Barrio heard it right: in this context, "People = bourgeois".

baboon
Mar 3 2014 17:29

Yes Caiman you heard it right. The "people" have voted, the "people" of Ukraine, the "people" of Crimea, the "people's right to self-determination", the "people of Gaza", all bourgeois terms that dissolve the working class in an amorphous mass of the people which entirely serves the class interests of the bourgeoisie.

More importantly, do you have anything to say on the statement of KRAS in the face of imperialist war>?

Steven.
Mar 3 2014 18:28
Caiman del Barrio wrote:
People = bourgeois. You heard it here folks.

er well it's hardly a novel concept. "The people" is a bourgeois subject.

This Joe Hill quote, for example long predates that forum comment:

Quote:
“Well, it is about time that every rebel wakes up to the fact that "the people" and the working class have nothing in common.”
--Joe Hill
daithi
Mar 3 2014 21:46

I think I might really disagree with that declaration. My anti nation stance is there without ukraine or pukin or obama etc, class war is always there anyways. But if there is a rise in ultra nationalism, facism, neo nazism and an enemy of mine wants to help me fight it - I don't see anything wrong with using them

Khawaga
Mar 4 2014 01:08

daithy, what country are you referring to when you say there is a rise in ultra nationalism. As far as I can tell it's alive and well in both Russia and Ukraine. Why on earth you'd be willing to "use" (how you would do that though is beyond me) either of them?

Soapy
Mar 4 2014 01:55

Where was the western commitment to democracy when the U.S. allies in Saudi Arabia invaded Bahrain to crush the uprising there? Could have ended that invasion with a simple phone call.

Foristaruso
Mar 4 2014 12:13

Declaration of Internationalists against the war in Ukraine was translated in many languages. It can be read on these links (not with the all signatures yet)

In Ukrainian: http://www.aitrus.info/node/3620

In Spanish: http://www.aitrus.info/node/3617

In German: http://www.aitrus.info/node/3610

In French: http://www.aitrus.info/node/3609

In Turkish: http://www.aitrus.info/node/3611

In Moldavian / Romanian: http://www.aitrus.info/node/3612

In Lithuanian: http://www.aitrus.info/node/3619

In Slovakian: http://www.aitrus.info/node/3613

In Portugal: http://www.aitrus.info/node/3616

In Italian: http://www.aitrus.info/node/3618

In Arabian: http://al-manshour.org/node/4987

Foristaruso
Mar 4 2014 14:36

Comrades, if you want sign individually, you can just write here from which country you are, and we will add signature "Internationalist from..."

Panao
Mar 4 2014 16:41

Just a question to the so-called "Internationalists" who signed this paper, how can you call yourselves advocates of Internationalism when you reject the very concept of Nationalism? Internationalism is the antithesis of Anarchism. A lot of talk about "real needs" but nothing about what the people of Crimea themselves actually want themselves, and issue of exacerbating ethnic tension most definitely IS a real issue for them, but then Anarchism never much cared for identities they don't give a shit about nor the principle of self-determination.

Maybe you feel the need to speak on behalf of those who actually do live in that situation but quite sanely the rest of us are not so arrogant. I say this to the mainly comfortable western audience on this site.

Esty
Mar 4 2014 17:16

Can't speak on behalf of anarchists, but for internationalist Marxists our position does not stem from an ahistorical comparison between abstract concepts (nationalism/internationalism, liberty/tyranny, federalism/centralism) but from an understanding of the material basis of history, which is the struggle between classes. The basis of our internationalism is that the proletariat is a global class and that class struggle between capitalists and workers is sometimes open, sometimes lurking beneath the surface, but always present. Our internationalism is a byproduct of our choosing the side of the only revolutionary class today, the global proletariat, in this historic struggle. Nationalism is an ideological poison that creates false unity between the national bourgeoisie and their proletariat, paving the way for the working class to be the fodder in imperialism's wars. Similarly with national self-determination which is meaningless when you consider that the agents of history are not nations but classes, and that every nation is forced by necessity to submit to the laws of capitalist competition. The slogan for pro-revolutionists in times of imperialist tensions and open war is "turn the imperialist war into a global class war".

Khawaga
Mar 4 2014 17:27
Panao wrote:
Just a question to the so-called "Internationalists" who signed this paper, how can you call yourselves advocates of Internationalism when you reject the very concept of Nationalism?

There's always someone that will come up with this tired old question, which really is nothing but a weak attempt at sophistry. Reminds me of the similar stupid question: how can you guys claim to be against capitalism when you own a MacBook and buy coffee at Starbucks? Answer it with a question: what the fuck is it that you don't understand about class?

Serge Forward
Mar 4 2014 18:22
Panao wrote:
Just a question to the so-called "Internationalists" who signed this paper, how can you call yourselves advocates of Internationalism when you reject the very concept of Nationalism? Internationalism is the antithesis of Anarchism. A lot of talk about "real needs" but nothing about what the people of Crimea themselves actually want themselves, and issue of exacerbating ethnic tension most definitely IS a real issue for them, but then Anarchism never much cared for identities they don't give a shit about nor the principle of self-determination.

Maybe you feel the need to speak on behalf of those who actually do live in that situation but quite sanely the rest of us are not so arrogant. I say this to the mainly comfortable western audience on this site.

Oh dear, there goes the Libcom neighbourhood grin

Black Badger
Mar 4 2014 18:35

Maybe the declaration should use the term anti-nationalist just to be more clear. Stupid prefixes!

bastarx
Mar 5 2014 00:59
Panao wrote:
Just a question to the so-called "Internationalists" who signed this paper, how can you call yourselves advocates of Internationalism when you reject the very concept of Nationalism? Internationalism is the antithesis of Anarchism. A lot of talk about "real needs" but nothing about what the people of Crimea themselves actually want themselves, and issue of exacerbating ethnic tension most definitely IS a real issue for them, but then Anarchism never much cared for identities they don't give a shit about nor the principle of self-determination.

Maybe you feel the need to speak on behalf of those who actually do live in that situation but quite sanely the rest of us are not so arrogant. I say this to the mainly comfortable western audience on this site.

Internationalism doesn't mean Ukrainian nationalism + Crimean nationalism + Palestinian nationalism etc ad nauseam it means the proletariat struggling together against GLOBAL capital irrespective of and in opposition to national borders.

Yes, I don't give a shit about the principle of self-determination when it means attempting to set up new states because I am against all states.

Flyonz
Mar 5 2014 03:05

Seems to me, considering your article on climate change, that this is the first of many people uprisings to come, and come they will. The West fighting for land,food and shelter. We were an amazing chimp!!! The chimps are smashing up their cage surprised ,............... amazingly dumb. :/